Showing posts with label Rothko and frost. Show all posts
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Wednesday, 12 June 2019

Dartford's Fiesta Red Cellulose 400ml aerosol guitar paint from Rothko and Frost review

Using Dartford's Cellulose paints on my Fiesta Red Stratocaster project guitar

Bare bones of the Hank Marvin Stratocaster project - 
Mexican Std 2018 neck, locking Tuners for the neck and 
Kinman Impersonator pickups for the 'engine.'

For this project, I started with a bare wood Hosco Vintage pattern Stratocaster Alder body with the intention of finishing it with Cellulose guitar paints from Rothko and Frost's Dartford's product range.

The guitar body was carefully sanded down and I used Dartford's White sanding sealer 400ml aerosol as the base coat.

White sanding sealer

Fender use a grain sealer on their guitars which is sprayed on and does what the name implies, fills any irregularities of the wood. Most bodies are sanded well and I used a very light fine paper flour grade type to get a final finish. 

The Hosco body with White Sanding Sealer Primer applied, ready for top coat



The Hosco bodies are very well made and finishing before spraying is negligible. 

Application

I found with the sanding sealer that it seems to get 'sucked in' to the wood on the initial coat. I sprayed a tack coat on and watched it almost disappear and the wood 'fuzz' up in places where little strands stood up. But not to worry....

I simply waited until the coat had dried and they broke off. I ensured that they would not cause any visual defects and applied a few more coats of the sealer, allowing it to do it's job of filling and sealing.

Left to dry for a few days, I then set about carefully rubbing down with 1200 grade wet and dry paper. I used water with a few droplets of washing up liquid as this stops the paper clogging. 

The filler part does clog the paper, so you need to rinse the paper and remove the wet slurry from the guitar surfaces and wipe with wet kitchen paper. Once the rubbing down was done, I wiped over with clean running water and dried the body. The body was washed again before the top coat and thoroughly dried. 

Hycote Filler primer -  extra step

I decided to use Hycote Filler primer from a 400ml aerosol as an intermediate paint layer as it works with both Cellulose and Acrylic paints and provides a strong white blocking colour base. As I was going onto what had been a bare wood body, I know that paints can sink and these Acrylics tend to work well, it may not have been necessary to use this, but I wanted a really sound finish. In time the paint may sink as Cellulose is prone to do.

First Fiesta red top coat applied - 
it looks redder than it really is due to the lighting.

Dartford's Cellulose 400ml Fiesta Red top coat

I was very pleased with the colour match on this paint, it looks very much like the original Pre-CBS colour I found inside a 1961 Stratocaster trem route which I had the colour copied.

The white primer rubbed down, I decided to go for the final coat stage. The Fiesta Red went on well, I sprayed a 'dust coat' over to see how the paint would go on to the body for speed of the paint from the can and covered the guitar over, applying a thicker coat over this and leaving it to dry.

Fiesta Red top coat applied 

The next coats were done close together, allowing the paint to almost dry. They weren't thick coats but enough to give good coverage. The remainders would be done the next day if the weather was good and after a careful light rub down.

The paint flowed out well, there was a slight 'orange peel' effect on the surface but this was pretty much gone as the paint relaxed as it dried out.

Fiesta Red top coat in the workshop as sprayed -
it worked well, glossy from the can

Fiesta Red top coat might look 'pink' -
but in daylight to the eye it looks the right shade.

Overall findings

The paint was the right shade and went on easily. I've sprayed a lot of paints from spray guns and cans and this was easy to use. The coverage was good and you might want 2 cans to do a guitar depending on how thick the finish is to be.

I got a shine from the can and after a day or so, it flowed out as it dried and any slight orange peel was lost almost entirely.


Building up the guitar


The paint did create quite a bit of dust which means that it contains a lot of paint solids and isn't just thinned out leanly, which is why it is not cheap to buy. 

Fixed a solder wiring joint problem and it sounds great



I let the paint harden off for around a week, cut it back carefully with Farecla G3 compound by hand and then assembled the guitar up as you can see.

I've now completed the guitar and it sounds and plays nicely

**Please note that Dartford's have now made their 400ml colour paints a thicker mix and these give better coverage. I have sprayed a Stratocaster body and it looks great even though it hasn't been polished yet.**









Saturday, 4 May 2019

Hosco Vintage Pre-CBS type Hank Marvin Fender Stratocaster replacement body review

Hosco Vintage Pre-CBS type Fender Stratocaster replacement guitar body
Bare Alder Hosco Stratocaster body

There are many pattern Stratocaster bodies out there whether you're replacing one or building a replica of an old Stratocaster from the Pre-CBS 1954-65 era.

That old saying 'you get what you pay for' is certainly true, but also to bear in mind that in some cases you are merely paying for the name too. Over the last 35 years I've built and repaired a fair few guitars, mostly stratocaster types including work on Pre-CBS guitars.

To mark my 35 years of guitar work, I decided to build the guitar I had specified and drawn up in 1983. And for this project I chose a Hosco Alder body. So, here's my review of it.

Beautiful wood grain on the rear of the Hosco body




I was no stranger to the Hosco brand name, a few years ago I did a project with a Mexican 60's reissue neck on a Fiesta Red Hosco Stratocaster body. A few years on and I chose a Hosco again as my project basis.

New Mexican Standard neck - a great player and 2018 made.
2015 onwards necks were from retooling and play and feel better than the previously

I had decided to use a Fender Mexican modern standard stratocaster neck for this project and had noted from my research that the Standard and 50's Classic player / 50's Reissue Mexican bodies and necks were interchangeable for fit.

Mid 59 - 65 Pre-CBS Hosco Fiesta red body

In my 62 reissue project a few years back, the Hosco body in this was a very good fit to the Mex 60's neck. With that in mind, I decided this was the way to go for this job. With no finished bodies to hand, I chose a bare Hosco body in Alder and Rothko and Frost paints, their White sanding sealer spray, Fiesta Red spray and a clear gloss in Nitro cellulose.


Right colour and nice finish - undrilled bridge screw location



The body purchased through Axecaster on Ebay was a nice example, it was sanded smooth and would take a minimal final sand to be ready to spray, or you could likely use spray it up with a high build filler and be ok. It has the bridge holes for the vintage Stratocaster bridge already drilled which is useful.

Body primed in white sanding sealer and Hycote hi build white primer



The machining on the body is nicely done, the shaping of the contours is first class and the neck joint is a nice fit to the body. It was slightly less tight than with the 60's neck but within acceptable limits. 

First coat of Rothko & Frost Fiesta Red on



The depth of the body is acceptable as are the contour cuts. I'd started the project a while back with another guitar of which the colour didn't suit what I was looking for so I sold that on and decided to start with a fresh body.

Great colour, looks like Hank's in the daylight




My project is half vintage, half modern, my 35 year old 'design' if you can call it that was to use a more modern 'Smith' Stratocaster neck with the adjuster at the nut end and the larger Fender logo, but in the general style of a modern Hank Marvin Custom Shop Stratocaster.

Start of assembly

The recent Mexican standard neck fits that brief, it is a nice C shape, slim and easy to play with modern radius of 9.5" and slightly more meaty frets.  Pickups would be Kinman Impersonator pickups Hank Marvin style with Gold hardware on the guitar.

Ideal for my project - Fender locking tuners



The Tuners I chose were Fender locking tuners, made for the neck so no need to have to re-drill any holes, they fitted perfectly - always something to be aware of when building a custom guitar.

Kinman Impersonator pickups fitted



Having used many bodies over the years on project guitars, I'd say that the Hosco really does the job for me, they are well made, well finished, certainly for the price they are a good buy. There is always the issue of neck to body fit, I have found that a standard Stratocaster neck by Fender fits which is always the ideal situation. 

Building up in progress - 
Kinman Impersonator Hank Marvin pickups wired




I'd certainly recommend these bodies if you're looking to do a build.


A great resonant guitar - plays nicely and
the Kinmans sound great.