Showing posts with label Gretsch Hot Rod 6120 Brian Setzer. Show all posts
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Sunday, 7 August 2016

Guitar reviews for you - Gretsch 5420T Electromatic Fairlane Blue upgrades project




                              The Gretsch Electromatic 5420T 2016 ready to upgrade

The Gretsch Electromatic 5420T 2016 is a great basic guitar but it needs a couple of upgrades to really improve it.

Firstly, the Bigsby B6 does not have enough screws, 2 only are fitted and they are too high up the plate to get the advantage that they should have, so that was going to be changed.

I colour matched this paint from MGTF Trophy Blue and Platinum Silver by eye

Prior to commencing the work, I purchased a Bigsby B6C trem, part no 60138100 from the US, suitable for archtop guitars. I thought it would be different to paint the indented part of the Bigsby casting with Fairlane colour blue, or as close to as I could get to it.

I cleaned the Bigsby to remove any traces of grease with a water and washing up liquid mix and rinsed it, let it thoroughly dry and mixed my paint by eye. I used a plastic mineral water bottle and cut the bottom off, it had convenient dimples in the bottom so I could use this as a palette to mix the paint.

I used MGTF Trophy Blue and mixed in MGF Platinum Silver. These are Acrylics and were in small nail varnish size bottles with a brush in the lid, shake well to mix and then add in paint to colour, I used a sable artist brush carefully to drop in the paint and flowed it out with the brush.

Don't worry about paint overspill when paint filling, it can be removed later. I did about 3 light coats and let it harden for a few hours, too thick and might chip out. I used my fingernails to remove any overpainting after the paint had hardened as the paint won't stick that well to the bare metal, but does to the black base coat already in the casting rebates.

To finish off, I applied a Hycote clear acrylic lacquer from a small touch up bottle again with an artists sable brush. I put on about 3 coats and let it settle for a couple of days to flow out and harden up. It looks like glass now and has sealed the paint in well. The metallic paints need this clear top coat to bring out the shine.

So first off, changing the bridge, which also needed the rosewood base sanding for a better fit to the body shape.

The Tunamatic is ok as a bridge but I prefer a roller type or Space Control bridge, but a Vanson roller bridge fits the tunamatic base fine, lastly a set of Wilkinson Kluson style tuners to replace the cheapo tuners in the future.

Using the curve of an optional saucepan to aid bridge base fit to guitar body
180 grit paper was taped with masking tape to the flat side.
Final sanding can be done on the body, but I did mine by hand and test fitted it until ok.

The first issue to overcome was the bridge base which required sanding to fit the body contour better. There were gaps under it which wasn't helping the tone transfer.
Slave Tunamatic in place, see holes in front of it,
these are where the bridge screws go into them through the bridge base,
they are not plain 'pins' as on the Setzer guitars

Warning Here!!!! The bridge is screwed onto the body, you need a Hex Allen key to undo the posts that the tunamatic locates on!!! These bridges are not 'pinned' as a Setzer guitar one is on plain round bar. So DON'T try and lever off the bridge base, unscrew the threaded stud 'pins' and it will come off ok.

Once the bridge is off I sanded that to profile and reinstalled the base carefully, it now fits a lot better. Then a Vanson Roller Tunamatic was installed onto the base, I did try the Gretsch Electromatic bridge to see if the Vanson saddles would fit into it but they were not compatible so I swapped over the complete unit. The strings line up perfectly so that works for me and the objective of the roller saddles achieved.

Now to the most tricky part, fitting the new B6C V type Bigsby. I did take my time with this as the mounting holes on the base plate would be different to what I had from the old B6.

I did a lot of measuring, checking and re-checking. I found it best to attach the strings to the new B6 and try it in place, using masking tape on the guitar body to which I had pierced the old string holes on the body side through as guides. I marked the place of the old holes to help with locating the new Bigsby which has a different end plate as an aid to where I thought it should go best.

My concern with the new B6C was that the silver Earth tape was going to be very close to the hole for the new strap button screw, so I took the new Bigsby off and drilled a new hole lower down for that strap button screw to go through, rather than risk going into wood with a hole next to it or damaging the Earth tape and causing screening problems.

Once that had been done, I put the strings back on the new Bigsby B6 and tried it in place, using the lines drawn on making tape as a guide, as you will see in the picture below.

I ensured a good 'fan spread' pattern of the strings when placing the new Bigsby in my test measuring so the new Bigsby would work properly in my calculations. I am glad I took the extra trouble, it paid off. I would rather measure it half a dozen times and get the best result than put up with a badly fitted unit!!

Much taping up and marking done, it pays off.

I  lined up the Bigsby so that the mounting pads on the underside of the casting were flat to the body, using my 6120 Hot Rod as a reference point. Essentially, if you do not have a guitar to hand with a B6C V type to hand, there are mounting pads under the casting and I ensured that they were both contacting with the top of the body and then adjusted the base height as I thought best.

I Having established a good angle for the Bigsby, I then drilled the bottom hole on the mounting plate first and screwed the new screw in, having lubricated it with a smear of Vaseline beforehand to ease fitting. I then checked the contact of the pads and then drilled partially the holes for the remaining 2 screws..

Once all looked ok, I removed the Bigsby B6 and removed all the masking tape and cleaned the body up of dust. I remounted the Bigsby B6 and then drilled the holes finally for the top screws on the rear plate and for the strap button and screwed that in.

I found that the standard height spring put the arm of the Bigsby a bit high, so I used the one from the original B6 which is about 5/8" of an inch as opposed to a 1" on the new B6. This brought the arm to the right level for me.

The superb sparkle finish in the Fairlane Blue

I tuned up and test played the guitar and it sounded a lot better, the roller bridge was a good improvement and the look is just so much better than the old style B6.

This just looks so good, like a 6120 Hot Rod! New strings fitted and sounds much better!!


Gretsch 5420T and mid 90's 6120 Brian Setzer Hot Rod

Last but not least, I also purchased a set of Wilkinson WJ45 EZLock tuners and may fit those in due course.

I tried them for size and they fit the bushes in the headstock ok, but the screw holes are in a different place and new ones will need drilling and the old holes filling with cocktail stick and touching in with the auto paint.

I think these will be better and I have greased them with Silicon Auto grease from a syringe


Anyway, that's the work about done on the guitar, the pickups are good sounding so I will keep those in and fit the Wilkinson tuners in time.

The 5420T is a great guitar and this new version for 2016 is well worth buying. My upgrades have improved mine a whole lot and it has better tone and look as a result. Side by side with the 6120 Hot Rod, it looks almost like a Regent Blue 6120.

A pity tht they did not do the upgrades as here to the base unit and fit Filtertrons to it!!







Tuesday, 12 July 2016

Guitar reviews for you Gretsch 6120 Hot Rod Brian Setzer MK1 in Candy Tangerine

Gretsch 6120 Brian Setzer Mk1 in Candy Tangerine finish Japan 1999


Vibramate Bigsby attachment

The 6120 Hot Rod Mk2 in Flat Black


The good old 6120 Gretsch, is the mount of choice for Brian Setzer and no doubt to thank him for his ambassadorship of the trusty guitar, Gretsch chose to honour him with not only his signature and custom shop models, but first off, with the Hot Rod model.


This late 90's example is typically the stripped down version of the Nashville 6120, to a volume pot only, 1 pickup selector switch only guitar, although this example has had the hop up of an added tone pot. It also features this unusual Vibramate attachment to the Bigsby B6C.

This is an example of the Mk1 Hot Rod model, the pickup switch is set further forward as on a conventional early 6120 and it does not feature the fabled later 59 Trestle Bracing. The attractive colour, the Candy Tangerine finish has that slightly metallic sparkle effect which looks good. The pickguard was a plain silver type with Gretsch name.

The next incarnation, the Mk2 had added 59 Trestle Bracing between the top and back of the guitar (the Mk1 had just a 'sound post' piece of maple block to unite front and back woods.) and also Sperzl machines, plus an option of a 'Standard' Hot Rod pickup or a TV Jones Filtertron. The pickguard gained the Hot Rod and a flames logo at this upgrade.

The Mk3 has a different choice of finishes plus TV Jones newly designed Brian Setzer Filtertrons which have Brian's signature stamped in the cover and the pick guard is not fitted to this model.

The guitar is fitted out with chrome hardware and has the 1959 style V Bigsby B6C, with the flat swing out handle. The bridge is a modern tunamatic type, although this one has been modified to mount a Space Control which I prefer as the strings don't hang up on the saddles.

At the headstock end, we have the Gretsch T roof logo and the nameplate stating it is a Brian Setzer model, which I think is deleted on the Mk3 just out and the truss rod cover has the 'Brian Setzer model' legend engraved, as found on his 6120 signature model.

Pickups are High Sensitive Filtertrons which are standard output and give a great sound, the tone is derived from the pickup position only originally, although this one has the tone control option, however, I just use it set to the max and modify the amplifier patches.

Machine heads are those nice 18:1 style Grover sealed units in chrome plate and have a Gretsch G arrow logo on the back, later these were changed to Sperzel locking tuners as standard equipment.

Build quality and finish are superb, faultless in fact. The Japanese makers - Dyna Gakki, Fuji-Gen and Terada are all top line manufacturers and there is not a stray glue blob anywhere inside this guitar as with any of the Professional series guitars these producers make.

Playing wise, the guitar is superb and gives a great spectrum of sound from jazz and country through to hard driving playing. Of course the open f-holes and hollow body does preclude it from high gain distortion playing! The lack of trestle bracing allows the top more freedom to move.

The guitar comes with a hard case, which is a plastic shell type with a Gretsch logo and not the old style TKL made case, which the Mk2 and the rest of the professional models have as standard.

So what about price? The standard Mk2 6120 Hot Rod is about £2250 new, the most recent ones topping out at £2650, as a guide with a secondhand Mk1 one from around £1300 - £1650 depending on age and condition, a Mk2 around £1650.

A new Mk3 was recently on sale secondhand at around £1650 which was a bargain as someone took a big hit on an essentially brand new guitar costing £2650. 

The 6120 Hot Rod is a great guitar and you would find it a very versatile guitar that is also striking looking. Buy one before they get out of reach.